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title: "Carl Froch And George Groves Agree In Dubois ‘Quitting’ Debate: “It’s A Title Fight”"
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# Carl Froch And George Groves Agree In Dubois ‘Quitting’ Debate: “It’s A Title Fight”

Daniel Dubois was stopped for the second time of his career in a challenge for Oleksandr Usyk’s unified heavyweight world titles.

The Brit managed a knockdown against the flow of the fight in the fifth, but it was immediately deemed a low blow. Usyk would take an allotted three minute to recover and then quickly regain composure in the fight.

Outside of [the low blow debate](https://wp.boxing-social.com/news/usyk-dubois-low-fighter-reaction/), some fans and fighters are putting a focus on the finish, with the likes of [Tony Bellew believing young Dubois ‘spewed it’ by not getting up to beat the count.](https://wp.boxing-social.com/news/tony-bellew-on-dubois-quit-usyk/)

In the ninth round and following a knockdown in the previous, Dubois was dropped and on one knee watching the referee count him out. He stood on nine and the fight was waved off. He didn’t protest.

[The scenes were similar to the Brit’s loss to Joe Joyce](https://www.bt.com/sport/watch/video/clips/2020/november/full-fight-daniel-dubois-vs-joe-joyce), although he had a serious eye injury in that fight.

Speaking on TalkSPORT’s [The Verdict](https://youtu.be/DYvjm0c9sE4?si=lzE0MQdOYcGMqbe_&t=906), Carl Froch went easy on Dubois, but ultimately would have liked to see him ‘go out on his shield.’

> “I just think I would’ve liked to have seen him go for broke with some big shots before he went over. But I wasn’t the taking the shots, I didn’t get hit with that right hand and go down.
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> Only he knows how he felt, but you can see from the trained eye – even the untrained eye – that he stood up on nine seconds. That means he could’ve stood up on eight and probably carried on.
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> I don’t think the result would’ve been any different. I think Usyk was coming for him and he probably knew it. He’s still young, 26-year-old, I think he’s got a really big future.
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> But at the minute, I would’ve liked to have seen him carry on in round nine. It was one punch, a jab or lead right hand that put him over. I’d have like to have seen him get up and go out on his shield, but that’s just me.”

Froch’s co-host on the podcast and former two-time opponent, George Groves, agreed, pointing to the fact that what was at stake for Dubois – three of the four world heavyweight titles – was too great to not give it everything.

> “The hardest time to do something is the first time. So the hardest time to quit – if it is quitting – is the first time. And if he has thrown in the towel before, like we say in the Joyce fight, and it’s happened again. That’s the way it goes.
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> I think first world title fight, yeah I think you need to go out on your shield.”

[Dubois’ team will lobby for a rematch](https://wp.boxing-social.com/news/he-is-a-cheat-frank-warren-and-team-dubois-will-demand-usyk-result-is-overturned/) due to controversy surrounding the referee’s decision to deem his shot in round five illegal.